BOBAG commented at September 24, 2009 at 9:53 AM :
hey gwen,
Although I feel that the scenario you have described could have been easily avoided by an observant individual, I think it doesn't take someone who isn't accustomed to our culture to commit such a mistake.
I have seen friends of mine stick their utensils into their bowls of rice and left it standing over meals, despite being 100% Chinese and brought up locally.
About reading up about the local culture before traveling, as mentioned in the class, some cultures cannot be 'dug-up', so won't this advice be a little futile?
cheers
Audrey Wong commented at September 27, 2009 at 1:51 AM :
Hi Gwen,
I think you described the scenario pretty well and it is really very common for problems like this to arise with all the customs and beliefs Chinese have. To be honest, I really don't know most of the Chinese beliefs because I was brought up in a Christian family and my family doesn't practice them anymore.
I remember one year when I went to visit the graves with my grandma (mum's side) who's a Buddhist. It was the first time I saw my grandpa's tombstone and I was awed by it. So, I said, "It's so pretty! Will grandma be buried next to it when she die?". Out of innocence, of course. And my grandma didn't talk to me the entire day. Not till my uncle told me what happened and I apologised.
g. commented at September 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM :
Hey Audrey and Feodor,
Thank you for your comments.
Feodor: I agree that the cultural practice that I have pointed out may not be known to many in our generation. Though it may have been a traditional Chinese culture, a lot of the culture and its taboos have been lost along the way, with the progressive Westernisation. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean what the older generations hold dear to them or believes in should be dismissed so quickly. My grandmother herself is extremely particular about this. And noticing that many of us young Singaporean Chinese aren't aware of this, I'd thought it'll be good to bring it up. In a way, you could consider this a subculture of the elderly group of Chinese instead of a Chinese culture, given that not all of us have been brought up to recognise it.
As to reading up before travelling, I agree that you cannot read about everything before your trip. No one knows it all, not even google. However, reading up prevents common cultural mistakes from being committed. For example, because of my failure to research about Shanghai, or rather China before I went there, I ended up offending every air stewardess on my flight because I am completely ignorant about the fact that calling them "Xiao Jie" (Miss) is in fact terribly offensive because that is a term for prostitutes or working girls, as they call it. They are to be called "Fu Wu Yuan" (Service personnels) instead. And alas, I didn't know that until my friend who lives in Shanghai told me so when I arrived. No wonder I got glares throughout my flight and water took longer than usual to be served. :(
Audrey: I hope your grandmother was alright after that! The older generation is indeed very touchy about the whole death issue. Your example has illustrated the very point that I was trying to bring across to Feodor!
Cheers
Gwen
Brad Blackstone commented at October 4, 2009 at 2:14 AM :
Dear Gwen,
I really like the way you introduce your observed scenario with the layer cake analogy. (However, I would use the term ethnic rather than ethnical.) The analogy aptly shows the layers that exists in human relationships and cultural and social associations.
As far as the story itself goes, was this a real-life situation or an actual conjuring as you allude to? It's hard for me to fathom that any guest would even want to be involved in the cake cutting, and more difficult to imagine the person doing what this guy did. That is so clearly a violation of a norm, even in American society! That's why it strikes me as odd and, hopefully, fictional. (Please tell me this is NOT true. otherwise, I will again have to hide my American identity for a few more years!)
In any case, I appreciate the way you've tried to use this story to introduce how norms vary from culture to culture (but like I said, there is a norm in America NOT to leave a knife in a cake like that!).
Thank you for this effort!
g. commented at October 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM :
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g. commented at October 4, 2009 at 10:42 PM :
Hi Brad!
Thank you for taking time to comment on my post.
Unfortunately, it was adapted from a true story (the reason why he decided to help out is a story for another day). Fortunately, I did tweak the nationality a little. So no worries, you don't have to hide your identity! You can still be a proud American!
Anyway, I never knew Americans had a norm NOT to do so! Very interesting. I apologize that I have generalized this behaviour that I have witnessed to all Westerners.
Cheers
Gwen
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